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Nothing is perfect. No system is perfect. But term limits definitely help curtail corruption. Whether the system is broken and vulnerable or not, making sure we don have a ruler who is able to stay in power long enough to amass enough political power to canadagoosestorevip declare themself dictator for life is good.
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Saying that “FDR broke a 150 year tradition” or “two terms has cultural significance” is wholly irrelevant to the virtue of having more than two terms. Tradition and culture are terrible ways to evaluate a function of government.
canada goose black friday sale That not what I saying at all. I saying that term limits are a good thing. Having two, three, or four doesn matter. So long as there are term limits. I pointed out that two is fine because of cultural significance and how well it fits with our history, but even three or four is not an issue. All canada goose outlet jackets that matters is ensuring there IS a term limit. canada goose black friday sale
Yes, that’s what I’m saying. The canada goose outlet near me system is vulnerable so it needs to be checked. You just conceded the point but you’re acting like you’re rebuking me.
No. FDR just happened to be a good president. If he appeals to the people it doesn matter if he was good or not. If he was a fascist dictator who somehow got enough votes he would still have been president all the same.
If he appeals to the people, why shouldn’t he stay in power? I don’t necessarily disagree, but you haven’t substantiated why that is a bad thing. Democracy is about appealing to people. You would prefer a president who the people don’t approve of?
That not what I saying at all.
It’s literally what the OP of this thread said. I don’t know why you jumped in if you want to just ignore the context.
kajeet 1 point submitted 4 days ago
Yes, that’s what I’m saying. The system is vulnerable so it needs to be checked. You just conceded the point but you’re acting like you’re rebuking me.
Yes. I agreeing with you. And yes. Checks are good. Of which term limits are one said check. That all that I getting at.
If he appeals to the people, why shouldn’t he stay in power? I don’t necessarily disagree, but you haven’t substantiated why that is a bad thing.
The longer one stays in a position of power, the more powerful they become politically. When too much power is concentrated in a single individual this causes increased danger to democracy. If said individual amasses too much political power it allows them to transform their country from one that is democratic to something else. Again, the best modern example is Putin.
He abused his countries lack of proper canada goose outlet belgium term limits to stay in power until he amassed such political strength that he essentially become the dictator of Russia. He has complete and utter control over the political landscape and ha such control over the country that even if his people were to try and oust him from his position, he can easily manipulate it so that it never happens, thus leading him to essentially being no different then a king.
Democracy is best when there is a door if you will. One person comes in and does a good job, allowing their successor to then come in and continue their work. If one person stays in charge indefinitely the nation becomes less democratic and more neo feudal.
America is a case of that, even if an incumbent is terrible at their job they tend to have a better job of defending their place from someone else, canada goose outlet store new york even if their challenge is legitimately better. Because people are resistant to change and the unknown. Term limits ensures that doesn happen.
Democracy is about appealing to people. You would prefer a president who the people don’t approve of?
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